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Bathroom, Kitchen, Basement Design & Remodeling Ideas for the Nicest Home or Business on the Block

7 Facts You Need to Know about Custom Solid Surface Shower Pans

7 Facts you need to know about custom solid surface pans | Innovate Building Solutions | #SolidSurfacePan #ShowerPan #ShowerBase

 

Updated June 14 2020

If you’ve ever experienced a cracked shower pan which destroyed the ceiling and room below, or a mold-infested concrete tile base which caused eye, throat, skin or nasal irritations and costly doctor visits, you know a ‘cheap’ shower pan can be quite expensive. Ripping out showers, repairing ceilings, putting in new subfloors and doing mold remediation isn’t anybody’s idea of a good time.

If you’re looking to replace a way-too-small yellowed, cracked and creaky fiberglass shower base or a water-saturated mud-set tile shower pan with a custom solid surface shower pan, you have to ‘get it right’ once and for all.  You need the facts. You don’t want to become a victim of replacing a bad shower all over again.

My goal in this article is to give you, as Joe Friday on Dragnet used to say (now I’m showing my age), just the facts ma’am (or sir to be politically correct) about solid surface shower pans. What are the frequently asked questions? What are the not-so-frequently asked questions people should be asking? I want to help you figure out if this pan is right for your next job. Let’s check out these 7 facts to save you research time, cost and aggravation.

Fact #1 – Solid surface and cultured stone shower pans (even with a gloss finish) aren’t slippery…although a matte finish is still best for sure-footing 

If you’re looking to install a custom shower pan with a large, low-curb walk-in opening for Mom and Dad, the last thing you want is for them to fall once after they get into the shower. Accidents, bathrooms and older people (no, I don’t put my 58-year-old self in that category, thank you very) are too often joined at the ‘broken-hip’ (bad, analogy here, but true). This is one disaster you must avoid. A slippery shower pan – and the potential fallout from it – is NOT happening to you.

As you may realize, most solid surface wall panels are glossy and slippery. Water and soap roll off for easy cleaning. While you want an easy to clean shower pan, it can’t be slippery. All solid surface shower pans (whether they are standard or custom sized) have textured bottoms. They surpass the dynamic coefficient of friction levels (this is an engineering geeky term for how slipper the base is) set by the American Nationals Standards ‘Slip Test.’ Bottom line – a solid surface base provides you, and your loved one, with solid footing whether you choose a gloss or matte finish. It’s safe for you, and it’s safe for Mom or Dad. With all that being said, the matte finish does provide surer footing than gloss.

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Solid Surface shower pan with a textured bottom | Innovate Building Solutions | #ShowerPan #TexturedBottom #CustomShowerPan

Fact #2 – Custom solid surface shower pans aren’t a ‘cheap date’ – at least when you look at initial purchase price

I wish solid surface (or cultured granite shower pans as they’re also called) shower pans were as cheap as acrylic or fiberglass. If they were I believe acrylic and fiberglass would be virtually dead – unless someone needs a lightweight base. Solid surface bases are comparably priced with a custom tile pan installed by a professional contractor. With this choice you don’t have to worry – unlike mortar tile bases – of leaking shower pans and grout maintenance costs.

So, you may be wondering how much does a solid surface pan cost?  While they run the gamut, here’s 4 examples to sink your teeth into (note – you can choose from 51 different colors and the prices below stay the same):

Example 1 – A 36” x 36” custom solid surface stand-up shower enclosure with a custom drain location.  

Budget $830.

Example 2 – A 43” x 43” custom solid surface NEO angle corner shower with a custom drain location.

Neo Angle Solid surface base | Innovate Building Solutions | #Glassblockshower #ShoweBase #GlassBlockShowerBase
A NEO angle custom matte finished cultured stone shower pan designed for a glass block shower walls

Budget $1,160.

Example 3 – A 66” x 40” custom offset shower pan (this means there are 3 walls inside the shower and a partial framed wall in the front) with a custom drain location.

Budget $1,550.

Example 4 – A custom shower pan built for a curved glass block wall in a 72” x 40” size.

Budget $2,275.

Yes, custom solid surface shower pans aren’t a cheap date, however, they have a lifetime guarantee, are built as sturdy as a tank, and you’ll NEVER have to replace them because they cracked and caused a leak in the floor below.

If you really want to ‘dig-deep’ into the cost of solid surface or cultured marble shower pans read How much do custom and standard cultured marble and granite shower pans costs or click on the image below.

How much cultured marble granite or solid surface shower pans cost | Innovate Building Solutions | #CulturedStone #GraniteShowerPans #ShowerPans #GraniteBase
Article – How much do standard and custom sized cultured marble and granite pans cost

 

Fact #3 – The curb height, depth and width of the opening can be varied to fit your needs  

Getting your shower pan built right requires deep reflection (no, you don’t need any advanced meditation classes). You need to be strategic in the height, width and depth of your shower curb (all things which can – and often are – varied in a custom solid surface shower pan). Let’s look at these 3 key variables:

Variable 1 – The curb height

If your mobility, or that of your family members, is not what it used to be (or someone has been diagnosed with ALS or Parkinson’s Disease) the curb height decision is critical for the shower to function at all (no matter what type of base you choose). Solid surface shower pans are available in a ‘standard height curb’ (which is 4 ¼” tall), a low-profile curb (which is between 1 ½” to 2” tall) or a barrier free roll in entry.

The one I recommend most is the low-profile curb. It’s sleek, contemporary and can be outfitted with a ramp extension kit if you need to convert the shower to a full roll in. The reason I like this option is it gives you flexibility without looking like a roll in shower. Note, roll in showers can hurt resale values because some people are turned off by a shower which looks like ‘Grandma lives here.”

Solid Surface pan with a curb height | Innovate Building Solutions | #LowProfileCurb #SolidSurfacePan #CustomShowerBase
A curved cultured granite (or solid surface) shower pan

Variable 2 – The curb depth

I would define the depth of the curb (or threshold as some people call it) as the width of the platform as you step into the shower. For a frameless 3/8” thick glass enclosure a curb width of 2 ½” to 3” for your custom pan will work well. However if you’re using a 3 1/8” curved glass block wall you’ll want a width bigger than the blocks (I usually recommend 4” wide). Yes, size does matters, but also so does width.

Variable 3 – The width of the opening 

This is not a variable many people think about, but, if someone in your family can’t get into the shower you may end up saying, “Houston, we have a problem (your language may be more ‘flowery’ than this).” With custom solid surface pans, you can make the opening any size you’d like. If you’re not sure how to size an opening check out 5 Proven Questions to Get the Size of Your Shower Opening Right.

Fact #4 – A bench or corner seat is not part of the pan

Sometimes with acrylic or fiberglass pans you’ll see a seat is molded into the pan. With custom solid surface pans this is not the case. Molding a seat into the pan makes it challenging (OK – near impossible if I’m being honest) to fit through the door in a bath remodel and offers limited flexibility.

With solid surface pans rectangular bench seats are butted up to the end of the shower pan. If you want to maximize the size of your pan and not make the shower too crowded, then it makes sense to go with a solid surface corner seat which is mounted on the wall.

Corner Seat Solid Surface | Innovate Building Solutions | #CornerSeat #ShowerSeat #SolidSurface

Fact #5 – You can choose your drain location.

Moving drains in a remodel is a pain in the drain (OK – bad humor, but I resemble that). If you’ve got a concrete floor the process is dusty, time-consuming and expensive if you’re paying top-dollar to use a professional remodeling contractor (note – your ‘professional contractor’ SHOULD NOT look like the guys below).

crazy looking contractors | Innovate Building Solutions

While a custom solid surface shower pan can be expensive (see fact #2) – you’ll save money because you can choose your drain location and won’t have the cost of cutting the floor and re-routing plumbing. One rule to keep in mind. Stay at least 8” off your stud walls for your drain location. The reason for this is otherwise the slope to the drain is too steep.

Fact #6 – You only need silicone to secure the shower pan to the floor

If you’ve set an acrylic or fiberglass pan you know how messy mixing thin set mortar with a drill and paddle is. Then, you still end up feeling these bases flex and make funny creaking sounds as you walk on them. Yuck!

What’s cool about solid surface is it is …. solid. Not only will you like a sturdy, non-flexible surface to walk on, but they also don’t need to be set into messy thin set mortar. All you need is silicone below the pan to keep it in place (note – if your floor isn’t reasonably level you will need thin set or leveling mix).

Fact #7 – Solid surface shower pans are solid and heavy. Eat your Wheaties

If you want to install a light pan you can carry into the bathroom under your arms – solid surface is not the choice for you. They are heavy. If you want to reduce the weight of a solid surface pan, and get a sleeker look – the low-profile pans are smart. So, how heavy are these bases? Here’s 5 examples for you:

A stand-up shower base 36” x 36” with a 4” full height curb

95 lbs.

A stand-up shower base 36” x 36” with a 1 ½” low profile curb

82 lbs.

An alcove shower base 60” x 32” with a 4” full height curb

155 lbs.

An alcove shower base 60” x 32” with a 1 ½” low profile curb

140 lbs.

A 60” x 60” low profile base with a ramped curb entry for a wheelchair

240 lbs.

As athletes like Bruce Jenner, Mary Lou Retton, Pete Rose and Michael Jordan would tell us, if you’re installing a solid surface shower pan you better eat your Wheaties (or make a nice steak dinner for a friend who is helping you out!).

heavy solid surface shower pan | Innovate Building Solutions | #GlassBlockWall #ShowerPane #GlassBlockShowerWall

If you don’t figure out the weight up front you may have to design some crazy – yet ingenious -contraption (modeled after Egyptian pyramid builders) like one of our customers below. He ordered a mammoth custom solid surface shower pan (note – I should have talked to him about the weight of this base -oops – my bad). Check out this video.

Conclusion

After reading these 7 facts do you think a solid surface shower pan is right for your job? The positives of this base are it’s solid, durable as a tank, customizable in every way and won’t flex or bend when you walk on it. The negatives are it’s not a ‘cheap date’ and installing it is likely a 2-person job because they are heavy.

Does this type of base make sense for you? I’d love to hear your questions and comments below.

Can I (or my team) help you with technical questions or pricing a custom solid surface shower pan or wall surround kit?

My goal was to give you the most important facts about these pans– but I certainly haven’t covered everything you might to know about your job. If you have a project (anywhere in the country) call me – or a member of my team – we’d love to help you spec it out or quote it. Call Innovate Building Solutions at 877-668-5888.

For a Cleveland bathroom remodeling job call The Bath Doctor in Cleveland at 216-531-6085 or in Columbus at 614-252-7294.

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Mike Foti

President of Innovate Building Solutions a nationwide supplier and regional (Cleveland and Columbus) remodeling contractors. Some of our product lines include glass counters, floors, backsplashes, glass blocks and grout free shower and tub wall panels

Comments (12)

  • Sarita – you should be able to use a solid surface pan like the one I’ve shown in the link below. These pans will weigh from 8 to 10 pounds per square foot so you’ll want to check with a structural engineer to make sure your floor is capable of supporting the pan – it should be – but it never hurts to check. We can wholesale you this shower pan so if you’d like a quote feel free to reach out at 877-668-5888. Thanks for reading the blog – Mike – now here’s the link – https://innovatebuildingsolutions.com/products/bathrooms/custom-cultured-marble-shower-pans-bases

  • We are having to do our master bath for the 4th time. The shower pan and drain leaked. Our bathroom is located on the second floor and I want to be
    re-assured that the plywood floor can hold the weight of a solid pan.
    Since we live in Palm Beach/Martin County area in Florida, do you have any recommendations who to use and what type of solid pan. We are also on well water via water softener. So stain (ie: rust) resistance, is very important.
    Hope you can help?

  • Leslie – thanks for your question. Given the custom nature of your project the solid surface pan likely is a good option. The one challenge is the glass block walls which are already installed. Since you sent me an email of the drawing I’m looking forward to talking to you about the specifics of your project. Give me a call – Mike

  • Hi,
    My husband and I are planning on our 3rd shower floor! We remodeled in 2009 using stone flooring. Then redid the stone flooring with new stone in 2015(ish). Hate it still (again).
    The shower is 60 x 42 centerish drain 18″ off the back and 29 1/2″ from the faucet wall. There are 2 openings. One at 23 1/2″ and one at 17 1/4″ separated by small curved glass block partition.
    We are hoping not to have to redo the tile walls or 2 glass block walls.
    Is solid surface an option for this mess?
    Could you email with any help/info.
    Thank you

  • My husband and I are remodeling our master bathroom and want information about how to order a custom shower pan. Please contact me via email.

  • I am looking to purchase a one piece shower pan, 48″ x 80″ center drain.
    I am located in Sacramento, CA.
    Can you help me?

    916-261-7455

  • Steve – thanks for your nice comments and obviously for your business. I’m excited to hear you’re enjoying your solid surface shower system. I will look forward to getting some pictures from you and sharing them with others. Have a great day! Mike

  • I have had the pleasure of working with Mr. Foti (whom I did not originally know was the President of the company) with the planning of my bathroom remodel.
    I was interested in the solid surface wall surrounds, custom pan, corner caddies, foot rest, etc.
    He was extremely helpful with all aspects of the decision process including videos, instruction sheets, design ideas, colors, etc. He was very responsive to email questions and telephone calls.
    I would highly recommended his company and products.
    We are very happy with them and our new bathroom.

  • Dennis – I’m glad you like our products. Since we install in our local markets we can provide assistance to your contractor with questions they may have. I usually recommend people to call Home Advisors or look in Angie’s List to find a contractor. For a small project like a smaller reputable contractor is usually best. I hope this helps you. Mike

  • We are located in Northern Virginia in Manassas VA. Where is the nearest recommended contractor who can reliably install an entire solid surface shower pan and wall kit

    I really like your products but cant find the “right” contractor knowledgeable in solid surface shower installation

    Thank you

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