I’ll start out by saying I’m usually a very upbeat guy.
So, you may be asking why I’m writing an article explaining why you SHOULDN’T buy an acrylic shower wall surround system. And if I’m being honest, I’ll also tell you this is a product my company used to represent 15 years ago.
Well, it’s NOT because this system will fail – because when acrylic shower wall panels are properly installed, they’ll be waterproof and keep mold and mildew away.
And it’s NOT because acrylic walls won’t help you blow up those evil tile grout joints you LOVE to hate!
And it’s NOT because you’ll feel like you hired Eldon, the painter from an old episode of Murphy Brown (for those of you old enough to remember this show) and it’ll take forever for this project to be completed (and as a matter of fact, many acrylic shower wall panel installation contractors will tout their ‘done in a day’ service).
It’s simply because….
I know there’s better shower wall surround alternatives, but they’re not widely marketed or known.
And if you choose one of these better alternatives (IMHO) you’ll get a more stylish, realistic, simpler to purchase (and in some cases even less expensive) system than with acrylic shower wall surrounds.
And if you need some proof why you shouldn’t buy an acrylic shower wall panel system AND what these better alternatives are, I’ve outlined the top 10 reasons below.
And in the comments at the end of this article let me know if you agree with these 10 reasons, and don’t be afraid to say IF you think my mind is still a little hazy from slammin’ down a few too many beers during my college fraternity days.
So, let’s check out the top 10 reasons you SHOULDN’T buy an acrylic shower wall panel system (and make sure to read reason #3- it may blow your mind).
Reason #1 you shouldn’t buy acrylic wall panels and surrounds– They look cheap
Most people buying acrylic wall surrounds today HATE, HATE, HATE grout joints so much they’re willing to put up with ‘plastic’ (‘er acrylic) wall panels. However, if the truth be told – many are hesitant to use plastic wall panels because they look cheap. And if you don’t upgrade to something nicer than a white acrylic wall panel, your new shower surround will look both cheap AND boring. So, what alternatives could you use which will give you the ‘wow factor’ you want in your upgraded shower and eliminate tile grout joints once and for all?
And with the PVC panels, you’ll experience realistic marble patterns using technology which wasn’t even available when acrylic wall panels started taking off in the United States 20 years ago.
Reason #2 you shouldn’t buy acrylic wall panels and surrounds– They’re thin
While acrylic wall surrounds aren’t the thinnest wall panels on the market (that distinction -sarcasm intended- belongs to FRP (Fiberglass Reinforced Plastic panels), they also wouldn’t impress your grandfather when he saw they only ‘weigh in with’ a 1/8” thickness.
It’s always smart to choose grout free shower walls with ‘beef’ (‘er thickness) behind them. It’s for this reason I like two wall panel systems which are 3x thicker than acrylic. They are…. (1) cultured granite shower wall surrounds and (2) laminate shower wall surrounds.
These alternatives (although not as widely known in the United States as acrylic) are sturdy and would get the toughness seal of approval from your father or Grandfather.
Reasons #3 you shouldn’t buy acrylic wall panels and surrounds – They’ll cost more than you think
When you think about plastic wall panels (‘er acrylic in this case) you assume the product is going to be light on your pocketbook. And who doesn’t need to save a few bucks these days – especially given runaway pandemic-fueled inflation and crazy-high gas prices we’re experiencing right now!
However, when you invite an acrylic shower wall system contractor into your home to show their products you may be ‘blown away’ (and not in a good way) with how much these systems cost. For example, an acrylic tub to shower conversion where you’re removing your tub and adding an acrylic shower pan, shower wall panels and a door will cost between $7,000 to $15,000! Ouch – you’ll definitely need their financing plan with this estimate!
And you may be wondering, “how in the world could a material this thin become this expensive?” And that’s a good question. Well one big reason is actually NOT the price of the acrylic. The big cost you’ll be paying for is the cost your acrylic contractor pays to get the lead (through expensive bidding with Pay Per Click or Facebook ads). And then there’s the commission costs paid to the sales rep who is highly motivated on the first call (so you won’t be able to ‘shop’ the job).
Bottom line is – 20 -25% of the cost of a professionally installed acrylic shower wall and base system IS NOT going to paying the installer (or for the materials for that matter) – it’s sales and marketing costs to get the job sold to you!
So, you may be asking, “how can I get a bigger bang for my buck?” Well – one way is to choose materials like the PVC, cultured granite, and laminate shower wall panels – which aren’t as well known (because less marketing dollars have been spent on them). In addition, they generally are NOT represented by the ‘big boy and big girl’ marketing behemoths in your local market.
However, it’s nice to know you can buy a better, thicker and more realistic product from lesser-known companies… and save money!
Reason #4 you shouldn’t buy acrylic wall panels and surrounds – If you want to DIY the job, good luck finding acrylic panels.
Maybe you love the satisfaction of DIYing a job. You love stepping back every day and seeing your handywork.
Or maybe you NEED to DIY because you don’t have the money to pay a professional shower remodeling company.
In either case, you need to source the product to even entertain the possibility of doing a DIY installation with it.
And here’s where the acrylic shower wall surround industry has (on purpose) NOT made it simple for you. You see many acrylic panel manufacturers want to protect their professional installing dealer network. And because of this, these manufacturers DO NOT sell their product through home centers or online direct to you.
And while this IS a good strategy to protect the profitability of their professional installing dealers, it won’t help you save money by doing the job yourself.
Fortunately, though there are other alternatives.
For a DIY shower wall panel installation, I’m a fan of shower wall panels which are modular, light and installable by a DIY’er.
My two favorite systems are the PVC composite wall panels and Fibo laminate wall panels. The third system I’ll give an ‘honorable mention’ to is the Dumawall system (although I’m still leery about the horizontal seams in this relatively new product).
So – in conclusion – if you need to DIY your shower or tub wall surrounds– you’ll likely have to choose something other than acrylic.
Reason #5 you shouldn’t buy acrylic wall panels and surrounds – If you choose acrylic and have a wall wider than 60” you’ll also ‘get’ a visible seam piece (whether you like it or not)
Although much of what you see advertised are images with easy to find 48” and 60” wide alcove showers, you may not be so lucky to have a ‘standard’ size. And while you loved the benefit of your oversized custom tile shower when you bought the home, NOW you’re seeing the pain in replacing this odd-sized unit. Now you’re struggling to find a custom shower base and oversized shower wall panels you’ll need to go with it.
And since you want your project to look realistic (and look like the tile you had WITHOUT the grout joint maintenance) without a visible seam, you’re wondering how the heck you’re going to accomplish this with your 60” plus wide walls?
Well – there’s 2 ways to make this happen. One is using uber-heavy cultured marble panels (where you’ll need a few ‘hands on deck’ to make the installation happen) and the other is modular wall panels which actually can be installed by one person.
First, the heavy alternative are cultured granite shower wall panels. They’re 3/8” thick (and you’ll need to be careful because they can be brittle during the installation process). These bad boys are durable and will last but you do have to ‘get through’ a very heavy shower wall panel installation (a 66” x 96” panel, for example, will weigh 140 lbs.).
The second alternative – which is simpler for a DIY’er – are laminate shower wall panels. They’re 23.6” wide x 94.4” high and click and lock together with a hybrid polymer sealant between them. They only weigh 26 lbs. and offer a seamless look no matter if you’re installing a 66” or a 126” wide wall (just keep clicking and locking the panels until you get to the end of the wall).
Reason #6 you shouldn’t buy acrylic wall panels and surrounds – Acrylic wall panels are molded, and the tile/stone patterns look fake
There’s nothing wrong with ‘faux products,’ unless after you buy them, you look back and say in disgust, “What the heck did I buy this ‘faux’ (OK that was supposed to say ‘for’ – and yes, it’s a bad play on words…)? And in my opinion the following ‘equation’ is always true…
(A ‘faux’ product which DOES NOT look real) = (A BAD INVESTMENT)
And they way I look at it, acrylic shower surround panels with tile and stone patterns look anything but real. So, when you’re wanting the tile/stone look without the grout joints what’s a smarter alternative?
This is where laminate shower wall panels are THE best answer. They’re not only 100% waterproof, but also have indented faux grout joints which have a different color than the ‘tile and stone’ in the pattern. The bottom line is…
They look real
They feel real
And most importantly they have NO EVIL GROUT JOINTS
Reason #7 you shouldn’t buy acrylic wall panels and surrounds – They’re bad for resale
If you’re selling a ‘fix and flip’ home in a low-income neighborhood, you can ‘get away with’ a plastic shower or tub surround system. However, if you’re in a ‘move-up’ neighborhood, a cheap looking wall panel system could put a damper on your (previously) enthusiastic potential buyer.
However, it’s good to know you can actually buy a nicer shower wall surround system which (generally) isn’t much more expensive (or in some cases is less expensive) than the acrylic wall panels. Check out the laminate and PVC systems mentioned earlier.
Reason #8 you shouldn’t buy acrylic wall panels and surrounds – Acrylic shower accessories look U-G-L-Y!
There’s nothing quite like an acrylic ‘corner caddy’ to make you say YUCK!
Reason #9 you shouldn’t buy acrylic wall panels and surrounds – A ‘cover up’ system is a bad, bad, bad idea!
You’ve seen the ‘bath-in-a-day’ system promoted on TV. They advertise they’ll get out of your hair in one day and you’ll be enjoying the luxury of a new bath or shower tomorrow as the commercial claims. And boy does THAT sound good to you.
After all who likes contractors in their home. That would be NO ONE! Contractors (and this is coming from a guy who has a division which does shower replacements in Cleveland Ohio) are a pain to have in your home – even if they’re the nicest guys or gals AND do a great job. They mess up your routine. You may not even feel comfortable wearing your ratty t-shirt or sweatpants around your home when they’re around.
So, this is one reason the acrylic wall panel ‘bath-in-a-day’ concept is so appealing. Get ‘em in, get ‘em out. However – here’s what you may not realize.
Often this job is done so quickly because they’re going to glue the new system over your old tile walls. And IF you have any moisture behind these old tile walls, you’ll be sorry when you experience mold growth down the road (and need to tear everything out).
It’s for this reason – no matter what you do – DO NOT settle for a ‘in and out’ wall panel system which is slapped up over old tile walls.
Whether you choose acrylic, PVC, cultured granite, or laminate walls (or any other product variation for that matter) – make sure the old material is removed to the studs. Make sure you get new ‘backer board.’ Don’t be ‘penny-wise and pound-foolish’ as my dad used to say.
Reason #10 you shouldn’t buy acrylic wall panels and surrounds – You think glossy wall panels look tacky
Many people want to replace their old tile shower or fiberglass one piece unit because it looks old, tired and behind the times. And the last thing they want is replace it with another system which looks like it would have been perfect for Jan and Marcia Brady from The Brady Bunch.
And let’s face it –for a new stylish bathroom today, you’re looking for a relaxed space which reminds you of your last trip to the spa. You EVEN want a space you can get away from the kids for 15 minutes or so. And when it comes to material finishes the trends are certainly towards relaxed looks found in matte and brushed material finishes.
This is one reason I think acrylic is not the best material for today’s styles. Most acrylic wall panel finishes are glossy. And this is why I love the look of the laminate wall panels. You can choose matte finish Modern Farmhouse panels or even rustic wood looking tile finishes – without spending big-bucks on a professionally installed tile shower.
Don’t cheat yourself and put in a new shower surround which is ‘already’ behind the fashion trends. Look for wall panels in a matte finish for that spa-bathroom you’ve been dying for.
So, are you still sold on acrylic wall panels, or are you intrigued by any of the ‘lesser-known’ options outlined in this article?
Even though I’ve been in the shower wall panel business for more years than I’m willing to admit (and no, I did not have ANY gray hair when I started in this biz), I know the search for ‘the best’ alternative at ‘the end of the day’ (AND at the beginning of the day also) comes down to your personal preferences.
And while I’m not a huge fan of acrylic shower wall panels – they can (and do) still serve a purpose if you hate tile grout joints or yellowed fiberglass shower wall surrounds, you’re putting up with now.
However, with this being said – I really believe there are better alternatives including (but not limited to) the following
President of Innovate Building Solutions a nationwide supplier and regional (Cleveland and Columbus) remodeling contractors. Some of our product lines include glass counters, floors, backsplashes, glass blocks and grout free shower and tub wall panels
Molly – our company does wholesale these panels across the country – so if you need them feel free to call 877-668-5888 and/or ask for a free sample so you can run a ‘test’ with your water to make sure they hold up. You can learn more about the high gloss acrylic panels here – https://innovatebuildingsolutions.com/product/high-gloss-acrylic-shower-wall-panels/ – Mike
Molly
By “acrylic” do you just mean the plastic surrounds or do you also mean the high-gloss acrylic panels that you have?
We have very ‘hard’ water so tile and grout is not an option, The laminate panels do not hold up to an acidic (vinegar) cleaner.
I have really been interested in the high-gloss acrylic ‘glacier’ panels but they are not available anywhere in northern Michigan.
Mary – while tile showers look fantastic when they’re done there’s a number of problems with them.
1) They are a pain to maintain – grout joints can get dirty and moldy
2) They’re time consuming and expensive to build.
3) And most contractors provide a limited warranty with them (often from 1 year to 5 years max).
And while 1/8″ thick acrylic showers do have positives (they’re simple to clean and time-effective to install) – they can look cheap and their glossy finish really isn’t fitting with the styles today. There are a number of nicer-looking, yet cost-effective options in my opinion. One are laminate wall panels. I’ll include a link to them below. And if you’d like to learn more about them – feel free to reach out to our team (877-668-5888) – Mike (now here’s the link to this product – Mike
I’m so glad I read your article. I was just visited by Reborn Home Solutions. They bought Jacuzzi, which has a great name, and now install Virgin Acrylic surround shower walls and tubs. All of the samples were shinny, none of them were flat, which made it look a bit cheap. The total cost was close to $20,000. It’s a new material that has a lifetime warrantee so I understand the investment. But I’m not in love with the material. Does regular tile with grout not have a very long lifespan?
There is a company who makes ‘vinyl tiles’ which are interlocked – but I personally don’t like the horizontal and vertical seems in this system. My favorite system is the laminate wall panels because they are thick (3/8″ thick vs. fiberglass and acrylic – which are usually 1/8″ thick or less) – and look very realistic – and it’s super-hard to notice where the 2′ wide panels are interlocked. I’d recommend if you’re intrigued by this line request samples – and here’s a link to do that – Mike – https://innovatebuildingsolutions.com/waterproof-wall-panels-free-samples/
Mike,
I’ve installed these types of panels for a client, but I wondered why you couldn’t manufacture different size tiles made out of this material and then use sanded or smooth colored caulking for grout lines. The tiles would be light and easy to handle and cut. No mortar needed. Just glue up and caulk the lines. This way, you could let your imagination design your shower. I like the thicker, more substantial panels and durability, but I’m not a fan. I believe they have their place, but it still looks kind of low-end to me. Nothing beats a beautifully tiled shower, but it needs to be maintained, like you would a nice piece of furniture.
Jeffrey – we have a dealer in Boston you should talk to called Details. I’m going to email you his information. Thanks for reading the article, I’m glad it was of value to you! Mike
Jeffrey Mason
Very informative! We just had a saleswoman from a local large family-owned business in the Boston Area. Replacing our shower tub with acrylic was going to be around $20,000 but when we mentioned the rep at a fair offered us a 30 percent discount she discounted it 20 percent to about 17,500. Of course, this price was only good for 30 days!. I could not help but feel I liked the fact it does not get moldy but I also felt for $17,500 it looked awfully cheap. I was not going to do it, but your article gave me fodder to convince my wife. Thank you for saving me $17,500. Do you know of any reputable installers of better alternatives in the Boston area? Thank you again,Jeff
Walker – I’m glad you found the article helpful. Yes – I would recommend before installing any grout free wall panel system to remove the ceramic tiles (and the backer board behind it). Yes – doing this step (vs. putting the panels over the tile) will add cost – but it’s much smarter to do this than risk you have moisture behind the tile and then trap it inside the wall (once the panels are put over the tile) and you get mold growing behind the wall. It’s the ‘right way’ to do the job vs. the ‘quickest, cheapest, way’ to do the job. Let me – or my team – know if you need more help – Mike (877-668-5888)
Walker Watson
Thanks for the info and advice. Doesn’t the ceramic tile walls need to be removed or torn out? My tile is set as a” mud job” and is
very thick. Does that make it even harder and more expensive to remove?
Richard – with our most popular wall panel line (which are the laminate panels) there are trim profiles we recommend using on the left, right and top of the window and then using a sill at the bottom. Feel free to call our office at 877-668-5888 for more insights or technical details – Mike
Richard Hiatt
I have a window in my shower. Do you have a window kit?
Chris- I’m glad you feel you’ve got a good result with your Vikrell system. The most important factor – of all factors – is that you’re happy with the final result and feel you got a good value. And I’m sure doing the work yourself saved you a good bit of money. Thanks for commenting – Mike
Chris
Mike, like chuck stated earlier I respectfully disagree. I just installed an acrylic (actually Vikrell but very similar) system in my home for much, much less than the faux panels of today. However, I installed this myself so no overpriced contractor was needed. I do agree that there are some other systems that may have a slightly better look but my issue with the composite/laminate systems is the fact that the panels alone are very costly for what they are and then you basically have 3 shower walls. Now add a base and shelves/cut ins and other accessories the cost goes WAY up as those are WAY overpriced! At least with the acrylic you can find one where this is all molded in, and buy a complete unit with base and shower door if so desired and for a lot less money.
Also disagree on the durability because if the acrylic unit is installed correctly in my opinion they are actually very durable and will last for years.
Pam – I’m glad your acrylic surround has worked well for you. And if your existing system is performing well for you – you certainly do not need to replace it. However, if someone has an moldy tile shower – or a fiberglass unit which is discolored or cracked AND are looking at a new system – I think there are some wonderful options available today which were not available when you bought your acrylic system 20 years ago. And these systems are often comparably priced to acrylic, yet look more stylish and realistic.
Most appreciate your comments and I’m glad you’re happy with your purchase – especially a system which you put in 20 years ago! Mike
Pam Witte
This is just to make you purchase a 15,000 dollar Reno or more once the provider tears into your walls I’ve had estimates from 3 of these reno outfits and that’s the going estimate so believe what you want but my acrylic surround has been in for 20 years and still looks brand new cleans like a dream
Lori – glad you like your system. I would check with your contractor/supplier – but generally ‘non-abrasive’ cleaners will likely be fine. Mike
Lori
Too late for me, my acrylic system was just installed and I love the look of it!
My question is what products are safe for everyday care and then a more thorough, weekly cleaning?
Wayne – this product is available through Innovate Building Solutions (I’ll include a link below) and there are several types of shower pans to go with the wall panels. Feel free to call 877-668-5888 and/or visit the site below – Mike
Bob – thanks for your comment. An important thing to remember is all systems have joints (in the corners, between the wall panels and the shower pan or tub deck) – but its important to get a system which also adds to the look of your home. I’d suggest looking at product reviews as a way to judge between competing systems. Mike
Bob
A jointless installation is best moisture damage preventative system out
There. Buy a quality one piece system and set your worries aside. Thre is no substitute for jontless, period
Chuck – thanks for sharing your thoughts. Of course – I’m writing this article from what I’ve learned by offering all these systems for over 30 years. And while there’s nothing functionally wrong with acrylic wall panels (and they have gotten better over the years) – the fact still is they’re a 1/8″ thick molded product with accessories (in my humble opinion) which don’t look that nice.
However, what’s always nice about the country we live in is we can agree to disagree.
I would also suggest to people looking to price wall panel systems to shop them and see what actual installed (or wholesale) costs are like in their local market. And while some of these alternatives are more expensive, I would guess most are 10% to 20% more expensive than acrylic, but offer a better value when you look at their relative quality (again this is my opinion).
Anyway – thanks for reading my article and stating your opinion! Mike
Chuck
Mike, respectfully, you are wrong on all counts. Like everything else if you spend the money on a good quality product you won’t be disappointed.
Your alternative products have the same issues as acrylic at 10x the cost and acrylic will give you years of service.
Carol g
I live in Hawaii and nobody here carries anything but acrylic. If I special order it will take minimum 8 weeks to arrive.
Michael – I don’t think our company has used the Swanstone shower walls in over a decade. I believe they’re just installed over a moisture resistant greenboard with an adhesive – but I’m just going from memory.
Mike
Michael
Hi Mike,
Did you have any experience with installing Swanstone shower alcove walls? It’s made of material Veritek. I installed it more than a decade ago and still like it very much.
Mike Foti
Molly – our company does wholesale these panels across the country – so if you need them feel free to call 877-668-5888 and/or ask for a free sample so you can run a ‘test’ with your water to make sure they hold up. You can learn more about the high gloss acrylic panels here – https://innovatebuildingsolutions.com/product/high-gloss-acrylic-shower-wall-panels/ – Mike
Molly
By “acrylic” do you just mean the plastic surrounds or do you also mean the high-gloss acrylic panels that you have?
We have very ‘hard’ water so tile and grout is not an option, The laminate panels do not hold up to an acidic (vinegar) cleaner.
I have really been interested in the high-gloss acrylic ‘glacier’ panels but they are not available anywhere in northern Michigan.
Mike Foti
Mary – while tile showers look fantastic when they’re done there’s a number of problems with them.
1) They are a pain to maintain – grout joints can get dirty and moldy
2) They’re time consuming and expensive to build.
3) And most contractors provide a limited warranty with them (often from 1 year to 5 years max).
And while 1/8″ thick acrylic showers do have positives (they’re simple to clean and time-effective to install) – they can look cheap and their glossy finish really isn’t fitting with the styles today. There are a number of nicer-looking, yet cost-effective options in my opinion. One are laminate wall panels. I’ll include a link to them below. And if you’d like to learn more about them – feel free to reach out to our team (877-668-5888) – Mike (now here’s the link to this product – Mike
https://innovatebuildingsolutions.com/product/laminate-diy-shower-bathroom-wall-panels/
Mary F Mackey
I’m so glad I read your article. I was just visited by Reborn Home Solutions. They bought Jacuzzi, which has a great name, and now install Virgin Acrylic surround shower walls and tubs. All of the samples were shinny, none of them were flat, which made it look a bit cheap. The total cost was close to $20,000. It’s a new material that has a lifetime warrantee so I understand the investment. But I’m not in love with the material. Does regular tile with grout not have a very long lifespan?
Mike Foti
Greg – thanks for your question.
There is a company who makes ‘vinyl tiles’ which are interlocked – but I personally don’t like the horizontal and vertical seems in this system. My favorite system is the laminate wall panels because they are thick (3/8″ thick vs. fiberglass and acrylic – which are usually 1/8″ thick or less) – and look very realistic – and it’s super-hard to notice where the 2′ wide panels are interlocked. I’d recommend if you’re intrigued by this line request samples – and here’s a link to do that – Mike – https://innovatebuildingsolutions.com/waterproof-wall-panels-free-samples/
Greg Josephs
Mike,
I’ve installed these types of panels for a client, but I wondered why you couldn’t manufacture different size tiles made out of this material and then use sanded or smooth colored caulking for grout lines. The tiles would be light and easy to handle and cut. No mortar needed. Just glue up and caulk the lines. This way, you could let your imagination design your shower. I like the thicker, more substantial panels and durability, but I’m not a fan. I believe they have their place, but it still looks kind of low-end to me. Nothing beats a beautifully tiled shower, but it needs to be maintained, like you would a nice piece of furniture.
Mike Foti
Glad to hear it Richard – our company can wholesale directly to you or your contractor the laminate and PVC lines. Feel free to call us at 877-668-5888 and/or visit https://innovatebuildingsolutions.com/product/laminate-diy-shower-bathroom-wall-panels/ – Mike
Richard Rutherford
Where can I purchase the lamenit, PVC or cultured granite panels? I think your advice and this article hits the nail on the hea. Thanks
Mike Foti
Jeffrey – we have a dealer in Boston you should talk to called Details. I’m going to email you his information. Thanks for reading the article, I’m glad it was of value to you! Mike
Jeffrey Mason
Very informative! We just had a saleswoman from a local large family-owned business in the Boston Area. Replacing our shower tub with acrylic was going to be around $20,000 but when we mentioned the rep at a fair offered us a 30 percent discount she discounted it 20 percent to about 17,500. Of course, this price was only good for 30 days!. I could not help but feel I liked the fact it does not get moldy but I also felt for $17,500 it looked awfully cheap. I was not going to do it, but your article gave me fodder to convince my wife. Thank you for saving me $17,500. Do you know of any reputable installers of better alternatives in the Boston area? Thank you again,Jeff
Mike Foti
Walker – I’m glad you found the article helpful. Yes – I would recommend before installing any grout free wall panel system to remove the ceramic tiles (and the backer board behind it). Yes – doing this step (vs. putting the panels over the tile) will add cost – but it’s much smarter to do this than risk you have moisture behind the tile and then trap it inside the wall (once the panels are put over the tile) and you get mold growing behind the wall. It’s the ‘right way’ to do the job vs. the ‘quickest, cheapest, way’ to do the job. Let me – or my team – know if you need more help – Mike (877-668-5888)
Walker Watson
Thanks for the info and advice. Doesn’t the ceramic tile walls need to be removed or torn out? My tile is set as a” mud job” and is
very thick. Does that make it even harder and more expensive to remove?
Mike Foti
Richard – with our most popular wall panel line (which are the laminate panels) there are trim profiles we recommend using on the left, right and top of the window and then using a sill at the bottom. Feel free to call our office at 877-668-5888 for more insights or technical details – Mike
Richard Hiatt
I have a window in my shower. Do you have a window kit?
Mike Foti
Chris- I’m glad you feel you’ve got a good result with your Vikrell system. The most important factor – of all factors – is that you’re happy with the final result and feel you got a good value. And I’m sure doing the work yourself saved you a good bit of money. Thanks for commenting – Mike
Chris
Mike, like chuck stated earlier I respectfully disagree. I just installed an acrylic (actually Vikrell but very similar) system in my home for much, much less than the faux panels of today. However, I installed this myself so no overpriced contractor was needed. I do agree that there are some other systems that may have a slightly better look but my issue with the composite/laminate systems is the fact that the panels alone are very costly for what they are and then you basically have 3 shower walls. Now add a base and shelves/cut ins and other accessories the cost goes WAY up as those are WAY overpriced! At least with the acrylic you can find one where this is all molded in, and buy a complete unit with base and shower door if so desired and for a lot less money.
Also disagree on the durability because if the acrylic unit is installed correctly in my opinion they are actually very durable and will last for years.
Mike Foti
Pam – I’m glad your acrylic surround has worked well for you. And if your existing system is performing well for you – you certainly do not need to replace it. However, if someone has an moldy tile shower – or a fiberglass unit which is discolored or cracked AND are looking at a new system – I think there are some wonderful options available today which were not available when you bought your acrylic system 20 years ago. And these systems are often comparably priced to acrylic, yet look more stylish and realistic.
Most appreciate your comments and I’m glad you’re happy with your purchase – especially a system which you put in 20 years ago! Mike
Pam Witte
This is just to make you purchase a 15,000 dollar Reno or more once the provider tears into your walls I’ve had estimates from 3 of these reno outfits and that’s the going estimate so believe what you want but my acrylic surround has been in for 20 years and still looks brand new cleans like a dream
Mike Foti
Lori – glad you like your system. I would check with your contractor/supplier – but generally ‘non-abrasive’ cleaners will likely be fine. Mike
Lori
Too late for me, my acrylic system was just installed and I love the look of it!
My question is what products are safe for everyday care and then a more thorough, weekly cleaning?
Mike Foti
Wayne – this product is available through Innovate Building Solutions (I’ll include a link below) and there are several types of shower pans to go with the wall panels. Feel free to call 877-668-5888 and/or visit the site below – Mike
https://innovatebuildingsolutions.com/product/laminate-diy-shower-bathroom-wall-panels/ – wall panels
https://innovatebuildingsolutions.com/product-category/bathroom/shower-pans/ – shower pan options
Wayne Dumanski
Where do I buy this product and does it come with a base?
Mike Foti
Bob – thanks for your comment. An important thing to remember is all systems have joints (in the corners, between the wall panels and the shower pan or tub deck) – but its important to get a system which also adds to the look of your home. I’d suggest looking at product reviews as a way to judge between competing systems. Mike
Bob
A jointless installation is best moisture damage preventative system out
There. Buy a quality one piece system and set your worries aside. Thre is no substitute for jontless, period
Mike Foti
Chuck – thanks for sharing your thoughts. Of course – I’m writing this article from what I’ve learned by offering all these systems for over 30 years. And while there’s nothing functionally wrong with acrylic wall panels (and they have gotten better over the years) – the fact still is they’re a 1/8″ thick molded product with accessories (in my humble opinion) which don’t look that nice.
However, what’s always nice about the country we live in is we can agree to disagree.
I would also suggest to people looking to price wall panel systems to shop them and see what actual installed (or wholesale) costs are like in their local market. And while some of these alternatives are more expensive, I would guess most are 10% to 20% more expensive than acrylic, but offer a better value when you look at their relative quality (again this is my opinion).
Anyway – thanks for reading my article and stating your opinion! Mike
Chuck
Mike, respectfully, you are wrong on all counts. Like everything else if you spend the money on a good quality product you won’t be disappointed.
Your alternative products have the same issues as acrylic at 10x the cost and acrylic will give you years of service.
Carol g
I live in Hawaii and nobody here carries anything but acrylic. If I special order it will take minimum 8 weeks to arrive.
Mike Foti
Michael – I don’t think our company has used the Swanstone shower walls in over a decade. I believe they’re just installed over a moisture resistant greenboard with an adhesive – but I’m just going from memory.
Mike
Michael
Hi Mike,
Did you have any experience with installing Swanstone shower alcove walls? It’s made of material Veritek. I installed it more than a decade ago and still like it very much.